Just some EBC red stuff, I wanted something with low dust. They are ok, but so are Akebono pads. With all my cars, I stick on some 3M fabric to the rear of the pads. I cut them to shape with scissors and simply peel the backing and apply to the rear of the pads. Its worth the hassle and carnt go wrong. The fabric pads are becoming widely available and it's also cheap and easy to apply. I'll keep it posted buddy, still working on the rears.