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... sorry to have a moan but ive just filled up and it cost a whopping £82.45!

This was based on diesel @ 115.9ppl which is about the average round here (south yorks)

For all of our US friends thats $162.65. . .

TBH dont know how long i can go on justifying this spend! :pat:

I got 481 miles to that tankfull by the way
 

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After living in Germany for 9 years, I understand your pain, brother. Even though I got cheap gas from the military, I had friends who had to pay all those taxes..

I look at gas prices like this; what is the next acceptable car you would drive, figure it's gas mileage savings, and then compare the comfort, pleasure of ownership, fun between the two. Sometimes, the savings might be a lot, but you have to give up the joy of driving.... high fuel costs are just the price of happiness. So I stopped even looking at the price of gas, as some here may know, since I just like to drive this car instead of a fuel efficient Honda or the like.

Maybe that mindset might ease some of your pain... just trying to help...
 

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To be honest Steve I think revolution would ease our pain more. I just wish they would get on with it while I am still able and of an age to take part!!! Especially in the UK we are total mugs that allow successive governments to get away with using the motorist as a milch-cow. Soon the only folk that will be able to afford cars will be the politicians (and you think I am joking)!!
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Think of it this way. I recently drove Lanark to London four adults in car. About £100.00 return trip including using the car in London. £25.00 per adult. I thought that was pretty good. I refuse to fly and if I can't get there by car/ferry I don't go. I intend to get the fullest use from my car and door to door i think it is still the cheapest most comfortable way to travel. In my opinion. My wife's Civic does not give massively better figures 2.2 CTDI 42 per gallon. Not half as much fun to drive and much more cramped. She prefers the 300 on long trips.
 

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i guess here in the us we cant complain too much, i filled the gas tank yesterday at $56.70. I can understand that it is basic business, no matter what the price is the demand remains the same or even higher, so they can charge what the want. However the goverments need to step in and limit what the gas companies can pocket. Last year i belive it was 40 billion for exxon mobile. How about them pocketing only 20 billion dollars and kick some of that back to the consumers by lowering prices. ......
 

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Our problem is not the fuel companies but government. Of the cost of (average) 1.15 UK Pounds per litre of petrol around 0.8 UK Pounds is directly due to government taxation. In the US you have Government of the people, by the people, for the people. Over here we have Government of the people, by the politicians, for the profit and benefit of the politicians. It has recently been coming to light how much these politicians of which ever colour or hue have been creaming off in undeclared expenses and assorted fiddles.
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To be honest Steve I think revolution would ease our pain more. I just wish they would get on with it while I am still able and of an age to take part!!! Especially in the UK we are total mugs that allow successive governments to get away with using the motorist as a milch-cow. Soon the only folk that will be able to afford cars will be the politicians (and you think I am joking)!!
Cheers John
Oh, I know John... most of it is Gov't taxes. Love to try and get the cash from you somehow, they all do it. I heard one theory in germany about the higher taxes on fuel were also meant to simply make gas more expensive to force lower consumption.. who really knows. I feel your pain. Although in germany and my week in England, the roads were soooooo much nicer, I am sure they could figure out how to ease the pain on the little guy who makes just enough wage to buy the fuel to go to work..

Revolution is good... we did it, so can you! LOL

My point was.. if you aren't going to revolt, the short term solution is to figure it like I do, a cost of driving something fun versus a Smart car or Ugly Citroen or something..
 

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"I am sure they could figure out how to ease the pain on the little guy who makes just enough wage to buy the fuel to go to work.."
No way Steve, Our "socialist" Government who are supposed to have the concerns of the downtrodden and poor in our midst just cut the basic rate of income tax to 20% from 22% BUT at the same time did away with a threshold tax rate for the lower paid at 10% - end product is a general reduction in the tax liability on those with a decent wage and an increase in the tax liability for the poor. Just a thought but could you not add Gordon Brown to your presidential election contenders - you can have him free of charge - we don't want him.
Germany has good roads - but you must have been in a very select part of the UK to reckon our roads were good. Especially in Scotland we have major trunk roads connecting main cities that are single undivided carriageway in each direction.
Boy have I a chip on my shoulder tonight!! :)
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This bloody UK government dont only tax the fuel we have to buy, they steal a fortune in vehicle excise duty (which used to be road a fund licence originally intended to do just that - fund the roads). Now it all cash gets swallowed up in the general pot of income tax, and is then frittered away on needless projects which are always always always under budgeted just for the green light and then end up costing us the poor tax payer double or treble the billions of pounds. As John has already mentioned, with our politicians - WE pay and they PLAY. I love driving my car and as long as I can afford it I will continue.
Now then, can someone remind me what date is the revolution due to start, I'd hate to miss it.
 

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John by buying and driving our cars we are saying FU to them anyway or at least I am. I will not be forced off the road by any Politician and believe me they are all as bad as each other. If i have to sacrifice something like eating out less etc then I will do so. This type of policy turn will in turn harm the economy and eventually something will give. I am a patient man. As Sun Tzu says "If you wait by the river long enough, eventually you will see the bodies of all your enemies float by. For the moment enjoy what you have.
 

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I've just got back from a couple of weeks in Dubai, and whilst there I hired a Chevrolet Lumina 3.6 V6 LS Automatic, (no 300C's available
) which to be honest was a bit of a pig and had seen some "action" having the battle scars to prove it. Over the period I managed to completely empty the tank covering about 700Km. My surprise came when I filled it up to return it to the hire company. I, well the little Asian petrol pump guy, put in 72 litres which cost me the princely sum of 92AED or £12.55 :fing02: that's 17.4 ish pence per litre...........it makes you sick don't it.


Moving on, I saw a few nice examples of the 300C over there although didn't manage to get any photo's. I parked next to a Black Hemi at our apartment and saw a couple of SRT8's go flashing by. There are, as you would expect a lot of white examples although Startech (or any other goodie supplier) doesn't seemed to have reached the UAE as all where standard except for very dark tinted windows.

And yes I am very brown
 

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After living in Germany for 9 years, I understand your pain, brother. Even though I got cheap gas from the military, I had friends who had to pay all those taxes..

I look at gas prices like this; what is the next acceptable car you would drive, figure it's gas mileage savings, and then compare the comfort, pleasure of ownership, fun between the two. Sometimes, the savings might be a lot, but you have to give up the joy of driving.... high fuel costs are just the price of happiness. So I stopped even looking at the price of gas, as some here may know, since I just like to drive this car instead of a fuel efficient Honda or the like.

Maybe that mindset might ease some of your pain... just trying to help...
exactly! right now it costs me about $130 to gas up and you already know how many miles you get with a full tank in the hemi if you drive it like you're supposed to :scared:

like you said, i stopped looking at the gas prices cause i want to have fun driving the car, otherwise i would have bought a diesel or something.

but you can actually still consider yourself lucky over there in the US, cause i'm paying like 1.45 euros per liter right now, that's about $2,30 per liter, thats liter not gallon!!
 

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I bought some Diesel last week at Carrefore in Calais and they were selling it for 99p a litre. And they had some right tasty pasties in the shop. Lucky sods the French.
 

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... sorry to have a moan but ive just filled up and it cost a whopping £82.45!

This was based on diesel @ 115.9ppl which is about the average round here (south yorks)

For all of our US friends thats $162.65. . .

TBH dont know how long i can go on justifying this spend! :pat:

I got 481 miles to that tankfull by the way

I work that out to be about 31mpg, does that sound right with what you would expect? What sort of driving do you do, motorway, town etc? What size of tank does the CRD have? I'm guessing 80litres (including reserve).

My old 7er was getting 15mpg, but I did love the sound of the V8!
 

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My Hemi is doing 16mpg locally on LPG and 21(ish)mpg on a run on LPG. With LPG currently being half the price of diesel and Hemi's being available at reasonable money it's a no-brainer for me!
 

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I work that out to be about 31mpg, does that sound right with what you would expect? What sort of driving do you do, motorway, town etc? What size of tank does the CRD have? I'm guessing 80litres (including reserve).

My old 7er was getting 15mpg, but I did love the sound of the V8!
you not got a "C" yet then??
 

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