[joey]

Does the 5x114.3 bolt pattern work on the 300c? I see several websites where you plug in the Chrysler 300C into their fitments lookup, and all the 114.3's show up as fitting the 300c. I have also seen a lot of rim specialty sites post pics of the 300c with their rims, but they only sell 114.3's.
Then there are other websites, where the 114.3 does not show up as a correct fit, such as bigwheels.net. I call Tireworks and other wheel shops, and they say 115's only fit.
It is my understanding the 114.3 is not the right fit and not to buy this size.
Are the folks buying the 114.3 using hub centric rings? Or could they be living with wheel shimmy at certain speeds?

 

[LB44]

J,
The wheels that I have are 114.3 x 5 and are a 12 offset. They only had these wheels to fit a non srt model, so I got them. We put a 7mm spacer, which is hub-centric, on the fronts so they would clear the large brakes. I don't have any problems with shaking or anything. Hope this helps.
LB

 

[apbrian112]

i'm also running 114.3x5 w/ a +18mm offset and i'm not having any problems.

 

[Mr.DJ]

Does the 5x114.3 bolt pattern work on the 300c? I see several websites where you plug in the Chrysler 300C into their fitments lookup, and all the 114.3's show up as fitting the 300c. I have also seen a lot of rim specialty sites post pics of the 300c with their rims, but they only sell 114.3's.
Then there are other websites, where the 114.3 does not show up as a correct fit, such as bigwheels.net. I call Tireworks and other wheel shops, and they say 115's only fit.
It is my understanding the 114.3 is not the right fit and not to buy this size.
Are the folks buying the 114.3 using hub centric rings? Or could they be living with wheel shimmy at certain speeds?

Well, here's a thread that I found while 'surfing the web':

Bolt Pattern

This question has been asked many times and has also been answered time and time again by many of us who operate/have operated tire/wheel businesses throughout the years...myself included. The correct bolt pattern for the new generation '300 series' models is 5x115mm and not 5x114.3mm which is the bolt pattern of the '300M' (the previous FWD version). Although many owners are running the 5x114.3mm bolt pattern on their new '300 series' models without a problem, it also appears that many still continue to experience problems as well.

Due to the limited availability of aftermarket wheel manufacturers that offer the correct bolt pattern, many '300 series' owners have resorted to running the incorrect bolt pattern and utilizing 'hub-centric' spacers to make them work. Running a wheel with the incorrect bolt pattern and improper off-set places additional stress upon your vehicle's wheel hub assemblies/wheel bearings, which in turn can lead to disc-brake rotor warpage, improper/uneven brake pad wear, and/or mild to severe 'ride disturbance' problems...including, but not limited to uneven tire wear.

Here's a quote taken from a 300mclubs.org member in response to another member asking if he/she could actually mount a set of '300C' tires/wheels onto his/her '300M':

"...the bolt pattern is slightly different, 114.3mm on the M to 115mm I believe on the new 300. While this ain't much, we have had much debate, especially on what that could mean in the long term. You are putting more strain on the studs and lug nuts as they wont be seating 100% flush with where they are supposed to, and you may also be asking for added vibration on things like the wheel bearings."

 

[joey]

Well, here's a thread that I found while 'surfing the web':

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-4328.html

This question has been asked many times and has also been answered time and time again by many of us who operate/have operated tire/wheel businesses throughout the years...myself included. The correct bolt pattern for the new generation '300 series' models is 5x115mm and not 5x114.3mm which is the bolt pattern of the '300M' (the previous FWD version). Although many owners are running the 5x114.3mm bolt pattern on their new '300 series' models without a problem, it also appears that many still continue to experience problems as well.

Due to the limited availability of aftermarket wheel manufacturers that offer the correct bolt pattern, many '300 series' owners have resorted to running the incorrect bolt pattern and utilizing 'hub-centric' spacers to make them work. Running a wheel with the incorrect bolt pattern and improper off-set places additional stress upon your vehicle's wheel hub assemblies/wheel bearings, which in turn can lead to disc-brake rotor warpage, improper/uneven brake pad wear, and/or mild to severe 'ride disturbance' problems...including, but not limited to uneven tire wear.

Here's a quote taken from a 300mclubs.org member in response to another member asking if he/she could actually mount a set of '300C' tires/wheels onto his/her '300M':

"...the bolt pattern is slightly different, 114.3mm on the M to 115mm I believe on the new 300. While this ain't much, we have had much debate, especially on what that could mean in the long term. You are putting more strain on the studs and lug nuts as they wont be seating 100% flush with where they are supposed to, and you may also be asking for added vibration on things like the wheel bearings."

After I started this thread I found a lot of discussion on another website with a similar consensus. There appears to be no way to "make" 114.3's fit our wheels correctly/perfectly. Bummer. I am plain tuckered out trying to find rims I like, and with the correct bolt pattern, offset, and weight.

 

[Northern Rider]

After I started this thread I found a lot of discussion on another website with a similar consensus. There appears to be no way to "make" 114.3's fit our wheels correctly/perfectly. Bummer. I am plain tuckered out trying to find rims I like, and with the correct bolt pattern, offset, and weight.

Those who put large wheels on with the bolts not lining up perfectly are only asking for trouble.

I am going through the same issue with TSW right now. They only make a few 115 mm wheels right now - dozens of 114.3 mm, though. A reseller - www.bigwheels.net - shows the Montage in a 115 fitment but TSW's site shows only 114.3.

Sticking with 115 really narrows the choice. Going fast on anything but a proper fit is not an option for me.

 

[urbanchemist]

i had a set of 20" HELO hawks on my base 300 that were 5x114.3 and car shook very badly when you went over 55 mph. i have them rebalanced and got special lug nuts and still had major problems. if i was to get new wheels i would go with 5x115 just to be on the safe side. imo

 

[HEMI4ME?]

I have 5x114.3. One tire place would not even so much as balance my tires due to the fact they did not want to be held liable for any problems coming from the wrong bolt patter, and even went to the trouble of printing up and copying a letter stating that I would not sue them if something happened to me while driving on them.

On the other hand I have gone to 2 other HIGHLY recomended wheels shope Wheelspecialists and Total Auto Pros in Tempe and Phoenix, they both said no problem we do it all the time without issue...

There is a shake that will not go away, even with the newly installed hubcentric rings from 65-75 mph.

I am getting refunded this week, for the DUB Moab wheels I bought a while ago, and I am hoping to find wheels in the 115x5 but the ones I really want are the Zenetti Heir, they are even pictured in Zenetti's catalog (not online) but the only bolt pattern they make that wheel is 114.3x5. Wonder why that company would go build a wheel and put it on their catalog with an incorrect bolt pattern?

 

[HEMEEE]

By popular request this thread is now sticky

 

[eudaman]

Those who put large wheels on with the bolts not lining up perfectly are only asking for trouble.

I am going through the same issue with TSW right now. They only make a few 115 mm wheels right now - dozens of 114.3 mm, though. A reseller - www.bigwheels.net - shows the Montage in a 115 fitment but TSW's site shows only 114.3.

Sticking with 115 really narrows the choice. Going fast on anything but a proper fit is not an option for me.

i found quite a few options in 115 x 5 that seemed to be fairly new in that bolt pattern....the tsw carltons i ended up getting are also 115 x 5.

 

[E55 KEV]

i found quite a few options in 115 x 5 that seemed to be fairly new in that bolt pattern....the tsw carltons i ended up getting are also 115 x 5.

Are you sure? Is that stamped inside the wheel, because TSW does not make any 5x115. They are using 5x114.3. There inventory is listed here:

http://www.tsw.com/inventory/search.php

A TSW rep emailed me this on June 13th 2005:

"We use 5/114.3 on these vehicles.

Thank you,

Michael McGowan
TSW Alloy Wheels"

 

[AWDRIVER]

schisty....

there is no debate unless you don't care about damage or possibly a wheel flying off. if you're ok with a second best fit go with 5x114.3 . if you want the right fit go with 5x115

there ya go!

:welcome:

 

[LB44]

there is no debate unless you don't care about damage or possibly a wheel flying off. if you're ok with a second best fit go with 5x114.3 . if you want the right fit go with 5x115

there ya go!

:welcome:

Wheel flying off? Nice try.

 

[eudaman]

Are you sure? Is that stamped inside the wheel, because TSW does not make any 5x115. They are using 5x114.3. There inventory is listed here:

http://www.tsw.com/inventory/search.php

A TSW rep emailed me this on June 13th 2005:

"We use 5/114.3 on these vehicles.

Thank you,

Michael McGowan
TSW Alloy Wheels"

well u best talk to your rep again...as these truly are 5 x 115. i think they maybe drilling to order now. the wheels said 5 x 115, the box's said 5 x 115 and they fit perfectly on the car without any added spacers or such things. perhaps their website isnt updated, it wouldnt be the first website not to be.

 

[E55 KEV]

well u best talk to your rep again...as these truly are 5 x 115. i think they maybe drilling to order now. the wheels said 5 x 115, the box's said 5 x 115 and they fit perfectly on the car without any added spacers or such things. perhaps their website isnt updated, it wouldnt be the first website not to be.

I asked the rep again. Again, TSW does not 'make' a 5X115 bolt pattern - only 5x114.3. However, they make and sell 'Blanks' for these wheel styles:

Carlton
Zandvoort
Kyalami
Heaven 7

Your Carlton's were Blanks. The Blank is then custom drilled into 5x115 or 5x120 or 6x120 or whatever is needed. They can also CNC custom drill the Center Bore and the offset. Custom drilling is often done by a third party.

 

[Flossin22s]

bolt pattern

will 5/120 fit

 

[chasb]

My C is

115 with +25mm offset

Zinik Z-12 black 20 x 9

 

[Mr.DJ]

Please refer to this 'sticky' regarding the proper bolt pattern for the new generation '300 series' models:

What is the verdict: Bolt Pattern 5x114.3 or 5x115?

 

[ilmanzo31]

5x115 is definitely different than 5x114.3. theres a good chance, that unless you were there when they mounted your rims, that they shaved the bolts or key holes to make them fit. they WILL work, but if something happens, like your chrome beginning to peel from the inside out...youre probably s.o.l. the same is true if you drill a blank rim. ciao

 

[ilmanzo31]

no way that a 5x120 will work, thats significant. a 5x114.3 can be shaved which isn't proper but will work nonetheless.