The biggest difference I'm seeing that the mercedes has, and a stock srt-8 doesn't have as far as performance numbers,is the critical 0-60 numbers. Mercedes 0-60 in 4.3,srt-8 0-60 is more like 4.9-5 seconds. That all the difference in the world for getting some decent #'s going down the track. Now if we can only consistantly lower our 0-60 times..... :biggrin: